Conversion of Robart retracts from Air to Electric for the Top Flite P51

After the “off-airport” landing of my Mustang a while back, I decided that it was time to get the retracts working.  I had them in the plane (locked down) for several flights and they did not appreciably change the flying characteristics of the plane and seemed at least as capable as the wire gear in absorbing light to moderately bumpy landings.  I hope I’m beyond hard landings unless a mechanical issue arises so hoping I can avoid any truly hard landings in the future.

Of course, these retracts were bought in 2004 and were built to be run by air but I had pretty much made the decision when I assembled the bird that they were going to have to be converted to electric use.  The area where the air tank would normally go was filled with padding and batteries and pretty well buried anyway so the conversion was a given if retracts were ever to be functional.  The retracts got a little minor repair and have been removed from the wing anyway since a new wing is on order!  The current wing is fixable but a fair amount of crushed wood and cracks in the main spar convinced me it would be easier and maybe smarter to just get a new one.

After taking a little time to replenish the piggy bank, I ordered the complete main and tail wheel conversion kits from Robart via my favorite local hobby shop.  A week or two later I had them in my hands and I sat down at the bench to get started.  This will give you an idea what the kit looks like for the mains.

 

 

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Here is what the starboard main looks like before the conversion and then after….

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I found the instructions to be above average but the one part that was not spelled out clearly is that there is a difference in the two replacement trunnions.  At least I didn’t notice it being mentioned anywhere.  There is a right and a left and if you use the wrong one you end up with what is pictured above!  Yep, I had a 50/50 chance and I chose unwisely.  Oh, the retract works great… if you want the wheel to thrust upward through the wing instead of dropping down below it!!  Hah!

So I got to take it all apart again and do it a second time.  I was getting pretty good at it by then and hadn’t yet put the thread lock on it since I’ve done a bit of modeling before and pretty much knew that I’d mess it up somehow.  It took another 20 minutes or so but then all seemed good and worked pretty well… mostly.

The next problem I had was that occasionally one of the retracts would slow down to about half speed or just outright stop completely.  Since this system was designed to stop at the end of travel solely by sensing the increase in current draw caused by the increase in physical resistance, I concluded that the controller has no way to know the difference between end of travel and any other major increase in mechanical resistance.  I tried a little lubrication (WD-40) and that certainly helped but one retract would still stop in mid stroke on occasion.  After loosening the screws up a bit and exercising things I re-tightened and apparently the better alignment that resulted has resolved the issue.  I still have not applied thread lock as I’m saving that for the final install once I insure everything is well when they are mounted in the new wing.  Unfortunately, Top-Flite has not been as quick to send out a new wing as Robart was at sending the conversion kits so this last test fitting will have to wait for a while yet.

The tail wheel kit is much simpler.  Here is the kit as it came out of the package.

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After the mains, the tail gear presented no challenge at all.  The only gotcha, which IS clearly spelled out is the possibility to set the controller to the wrong “type” for this retract with the possibility of burning out the motor.  Read carefully and follow instructions and you should not have problems.  I didn’t!

One final warning is that the actuator wires that enter near the clevis pin actually interfere with the insertion of the pin.  You can see the issue here.

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A bit of judicious wiggling and a bit of push on the wires to help them clear the pin is all that is necessary to avoid the wires and since they are protected with a sleeve of some sort it does not appear that rubbing will be a problem down the road.

That’s about all there is to say beyond what is clearly documented in the instructions that come in the kit(s).  For about $300 you get what seems to be a bit simpler system which should result in some improved reliability.  I have heard that some are unhappy with the ~10 second time for the gear to fully retract or extend but I like the smooth action better than the usual slap and clunk actions I have seen from many air systems.  This time can be somewhat decreased or increased by feeding the system higher or lower voltage.

I plan to feed mine direct from the flight battery/receiver voltage as the system uses little current and I am carrying 2 x 2300mah A123s so battery capacity is not a big issue for me.  I supply the ignition from these same batteries using an Ultra IBEC and even so I’ve been flying 6 or more flights between charges with no issue.  At worst I expect to charge every 4 or 5 flights with the new added load.  I’ll keep an eye on battery capacity and usage for a bit to see how that goes.

 

Indianapolis City Wide Fun Fly

October 5th at the Blue River airfield I participated in the Indianapolis City Wide fun fly competition.   It was a nice morning with rain closing us down after a single round of competition but as usual the South Side club was out in force and flying to win.  A second round wouldn’t have mattered to the outcome and with rain closing in we called it a day.  Below, I am ready to start the competition flying my Freestyle foamy.  (Pic by T. Brindle)

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I’ve flown in the Citywide competition maybe half of the last 10 years.  It’s a competition that consists of 4 “skills” including bomb drop, stick break, limbo and spot landing.

Bomb drop is done first by dropping a bomb (usually a washer or nut with a small piece of ribbon attached) into a set of concentric circles that are painted on the field.  Points range from 50 for a center drop (about a 3 foot circle) to 5 for anywhere on the runway.

Usually this is followed by stick break.  In this contest a 1/4″ balsa stick is placed in the ground and a styrofoam cup is placed on top.  If you can take the cup off the top of the stick without touching the ground you score 50 points on the first attempt or 25 on the second try.  The stick is usually 3′ tall but the hosting club can modify the rules to some extent.

Next up is a limbo.  The contestant has a choice of 3,4 or 5 foot heights to try to pass under with 50 points for passing under the 3′, 40 for the 4′ height, etc…  half points are given for a second try if the first fails but touching the ground during the pass nullifies any award for that skill.

Last is a simple spot landing.  Using the same concentric rings as the bomb drop the pilot then lands with the first part to touch typically being the scored part of the landing.  Touch and go is not allowed.

I scored a 135 with my foamy in slightly gusty conditions and was happy with that performance.

With only the south side club being in attendance consistently and in force over the last few years this event will likely see some changes or may just fade away if more interest can not be garnered next year.

 

 

 

Wildhare Slick 540 30% – Great flying aerobat

This is my Wildhare Slick 540.  The basic stats are as follows:

Wing Span 88″

Length  ~82″

Weight ~18 lbs

Powered with a DLE-55 and Pro-Flow Cannister and turning a Falcon 23×9 (or sometimes a Xoar 23×8 laminate).  Here’s what it looks like at the moment.

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Here’s a shot of the inside which has a few interesting features as well.  As you can see I’m running one of the water bottle type tanks.  This one is manufactured and pre-assembled by B & E Graphix.  So far it has been a great tank.  It’s significantly lighter than the standard type tank and the (I think felt) clunk does a great job of sucking up every drop available.  Moving back behind the wing tube there are two A123 2300mah 2S packs for extremely stable power.  On top of them at the top of the photo is my ultra IBEC from Tech-Aero and nearer the bottom is my TM1000 Telemetry module.  Hooked to that and velcro’d to the top of the wing tube is the attached GPS sensor (there are other sensors including temp, ignition voltage, and 3 Axis G Force).  Further back is my Spektrum 9110 PowerSafe receiver with all 4 remotes scattered about.  Behind that you can see the pull-pull system for the rudder which is handled with authority by the Hitec 7955TG

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This is without question the best flying plane I own or have ever owned.  It’s completely honest with no bad habits and is as close to a “go where you point it” flyer as anything I’ve ever seen.  The combo is reasonably quiet and has plenty of power thanks to the engine, prop and canister combo.  It will climb straight up forever and fly at least sportsman level IMAC on 100 plus degree heat index Indiana summer days…  It may be able to do more but it needs a better pilot for that.  😉

Like every aerobatic airplane I’ve ever seen or heard about, it benefits from a few of the standard mixes to perfect it’s capabilities but unlike some I’ve flown, it can fly quite well without any of them.

Unfortunately Wildhare like others in the market, quit ordering and stocking the big planes due to the slow economy in the past few years.  That downturn appears to be reversing, so hopefully they will get back in the market soon before the market moves on to other folks who are already shipping new competing products.

 

Did my Spektrum PowerSafe receiver just save my airplane?

Had a nice day flying at our Annual Toys for Tot’s charity fundraiser yesterday and today did the recharge on the flight packs on the plane I flew.  This particular plane has a pair of A123 2300mah batteries that plug directly into my Spektrum PowerSafe 9110 receiver.  This thing is a $200 item but it’s main feature is the ability to plug two batteries directly into the receiver via high current EC3 type connectors.  With this method the power supplied to the servos is shared between the packs and does not have to go through any switches.  A soft switch is used, which means if the switch fails the airplane is on and the current to run the servos does not pass through the switch so it is not a limiting factor in supplying power to the high torque digitals that are used on all flight surfaces of this aircraft.

When I went to recharge the batteries I started with the port side pack (just because) and charged them up to full… they took about 850mah.  That seemed high as I flew maybe 3 or 4 times and none were much over 7-8 minutes.  As I moved to the starboard pack something even more interesting occurred.  The charger said no battery was present!!  Double checking the leads quickly lead to the discovery that the negative lead ended in a nice solder ball that was no longer attached to the battery!  At some point it had become disconnected…  I don’t know if it was vibration, poor solder joints (from the manufacturer…  I didn’t have a hand in this connection) or some combination of the two.

I have no way to know if this happened before the flight or during but I can tell by the fact that the second battery took only 100mah or so to charge that I made several flights without it!  If the connection was dead before I took off the first time… then it really would have only meant I wouldn’t have flown that plane on that day if I hadn’t had this system.  If it broke at some point during the first flight it likely means my airplane is only here today due to having the redundancy in the system.  Glad I had this system.

Of course, this receiver is not the only way to get this level of redundancy and reliability.  There are other power distribution systems out there but for this size and type of airplane I think its a very nice option and one I will probably continue to deploy.  I will have to look at my pre-flight and assembly routine to see if there is a way I can check for this failure mode in the future.  In the meantime its nice to know its there protecting me and my airplane from disasters.